Re: The Managers Choice
Publié : 04 sept. 2009, 14:59
C'est marrant, moi je n'ai pas la même interprétation. Serge trouve ces prix ridicules, et se perd en conjectures pour essayer d'en trouver le raison. Il ne résiste pas au plaisir de tourner cette opération et surtout ces prix en dérision en en faisant la liste, à l'intérieur de laquelle il inclue Glen Wonka. Il dit effectivement qu'ils essaient d'atteindre les prix des "young bottlings" plus vieux cependant de Samaroli, mais il dit qu'ils se plantent, mais il leur laisse une chance, si vraiment ils sont exceptionnels.
Mais voyez plutôt :
SHORT RAMBLINGS (too long for Twitter!
)
MANAGER’S CHOICE
or DRINKER’S CHOICE?
Diageo just announced the launch of The Manager Choice (not to be mistaken for the Manager’s Dram), a series of 27 single casks, one for each of their Scottish distilleries in operation (minus the new Roseile). The casks have been selected using a Byzantine tasting process involving the company’s nosing and blending experts Maureen Robinson and Jim Beveridge as well as several distillery managers who were gathered for one full day at Blair Athol (must have been some party!) The brief was simple: each cask had to display the distillery’s genuine character but also be different from the core ranges. An example of the experts’ answers is the Oban that comes from a sherry cask instead of the usual refill American oak.
The first set. The Glen Elgin obviously offers the best value,
there areat least 2 more cls in the bottle!
So, the first six bottlings to be launched today are Linkwood 1996 (£200), Mortlach 1997 (£250), Oban 2000 (£300), Teaninich 1996 (£200), Glen Elgin 1998 (£250) and The GlenWonka 2006 (£7,599)… Woops, I mean Cardhu 1997 (£250). The bottlings will be available to Great Britain, Switzerland, Germany and the Netherlands and online at several retailers that may ship worldwide. It is already said that the whole operation is not likely to be repeated.
Comments: the Bauhaus-inspired labels are really beautiful but as a lot of online whisky people already noticed, the prices are extremely high when compared to any current bottling, including, yes, Ardbeg, not to mention the independents. It’s a very unusual move for Diageo, and I’m wondering what the unspoken message behind these prices can be. It cannot be only for the money, as there will only be +/- 9,000 bottles altogether – my guess -, a drop in Diageo’s malty ocean. It cannot be the price of true scarcity either, these whiskies being all very young. Just a market test? Well, my bet is that they want to arouse curiosity around bottlings that MUST be of extremely high quality and after all, they more or less match the prices that now fetch older young bottlings by Samaroli and other worthy collectables of very high quality. Assuming that’s true, and it just cannot be untrue or it would mean instantly killing the whisky crowd’s goodwill (but do they care?), these prices may simply be the prices of any new single malt whiskies of the very, very highest quality. After all, is a £10,000 Patek Philippe too expensive? Any Swatch owner will answer yes, but a true watch fan may not.
So we won’t follow the digital pack just now and wait until we have these babies on our desk, which should happen soon. Pateks or Swatches? As always, the truth will lie in the glass so as they say, stay tuned…
LAST MINUTE: Right, that was written a few days ago and thanks to some very 'free' PR playing involving embargos, veiled reference, online shops, foreign branches, leaks and screeches, we're probably (hopefully?) the very last place on the Web where these news are published, and I must say I'm rather proud of that. Even Christian News Daily and Tacoma Weekly have it - not! Did I ever tell you that we aren't too much into publishing presse releases? Oh, yes, and there's also a new Ardbeg Corryvreckan out, a bunch of Brookladdies, and Palin wanted to keep pregnancy 'a secret', and barley prices are down, and Chelsea is banned from transfers until 2011, and...
Extrait de http://www.whiskfun.com (au 4/9/2009)
J'ajouterai que, s'agissant de commencer une opération de déstockage de grande ampleur sans passer par leurs marques habituelles, afin de ne pas les cannibaliser (c'est à dire en faire baisser les ventes au profit de ces embouteillages), cela me semble bien calculé.
Une opération de teasing destinée à préparer un envahissement de la planète avec leurs propres embouteillages, sous un look d'IB, vendus 30 euros d'ici 3 à 5 ans. Ainsi on déstoque et on barre le chemin des IB.
Mais en attendant, on fait monter les prix.
Si mon intuition est bonne, c'est bien calculé pour le long terme, messieurs. Pour le court terme, c'est invraisemblable qu'une quantité importante de gens se mettent à payer le whisky ce prix là. Il n'y a pas beaucoup de clents pour les montres à £10.000, et celles ci présentent des signes distinctifs de qualité (usages métaux et pierres précieux, mouvement complexes, ciselures d'orfèvrerie) que n'ont pas les whiskies de quelques années d'âge, fussent ils bons. Et en imaginant que les indépendants les suivent dans leur course au prix (et pourquuoi pas ?), les pigeons auront bientôt le choix entre 50 gammes de ce prix là, et ce sera un gros flop pour tout le monde. Et là, je rejoins Lexus.
Mais voyez plutôt :
SHORT RAMBLINGS (too long for Twitter!

MANAGER’S CHOICE
or DRINKER’S CHOICE?
Diageo just announced the launch of The Manager Choice (not to be mistaken for the Manager’s Dram), a series of 27 single casks, one for each of their Scottish distilleries in operation (minus the new Roseile). The casks have been selected using a Byzantine tasting process involving the company’s nosing and blending experts Maureen Robinson and Jim Beveridge as well as several distillery managers who were gathered for one full day at Blair Athol (must have been some party!) The brief was simple: each cask had to display the distillery’s genuine character but also be different from the core ranges. An example of the experts’ answers is the Oban that comes from a sherry cask instead of the usual refill American oak.
The first set. The Glen Elgin obviously offers the best value,
there areat least 2 more cls in the bottle!
So, the first six bottlings to be launched today are Linkwood 1996 (£200), Mortlach 1997 (£250), Oban 2000 (£300), Teaninich 1996 (£200), Glen Elgin 1998 (£250) and The GlenWonka 2006 (£7,599)… Woops, I mean Cardhu 1997 (£250). The bottlings will be available to Great Britain, Switzerland, Germany and the Netherlands and online at several retailers that may ship worldwide. It is already said that the whole operation is not likely to be repeated.
Comments: the Bauhaus-inspired labels are really beautiful but as a lot of online whisky people already noticed, the prices are extremely high when compared to any current bottling, including, yes, Ardbeg, not to mention the independents. It’s a very unusual move for Diageo, and I’m wondering what the unspoken message behind these prices can be. It cannot be only for the money, as there will only be +/- 9,000 bottles altogether – my guess -, a drop in Diageo’s malty ocean. It cannot be the price of true scarcity either, these whiskies being all very young. Just a market test? Well, my bet is that they want to arouse curiosity around bottlings that MUST be of extremely high quality and after all, they more or less match the prices that now fetch older young bottlings by Samaroli and other worthy collectables of very high quality. Assuming that’s true, and it just cannot be untrue or it would mean instantly killing the whisky crowd’s goodwill (but do they care?), these prices may simply be the prices of any new single malt whiskies of the very, very highest quality. After all, is a £10,000 Patek Philippe too expensive? Any Swatch owner will answer yes, but a true watch fan may not.
So we won’t follow the digital pack just now and wait until we have these babies on our desk, which should happen soon. Pateks or Swatches? As always, the truth will lie in the glass so as they say, stay tuned…
LAST MINUTE: Right, that was written a few days ago and thanks to some very 'free' PR playing involving embargos, veiled reference, online shops, foreign branches, leaks and screeches, we're probably (hopefully?) the very last place on the Web where these news are published, and I must say I'm rather proud of that. Even Christian News Daily and Tacoma Weekly have it - not! Did I ever tell you that we aren't too much into publishing presse releases? Oh, yes, and there's also a new Ardbeg Corryvreckan out, a bunch of Brookladdies, and Palin wanted to keep pregnancy 'a secret', and barley prices are down, and Chelsea is banned from transfers until 2011, and...
Extrait de http://www.whiskfun.com (au 4/9/2009)
J'ajouterai que, s'agissant de commencer une opération de déstockage de grande ampleur sans passer par leurs marques habituelles, afin de ne pas les cannibaliser (c'est à dire en faire baisser les ventes au profit de ces embouteillages), cela me semble bien calculé.
Une opération de teasing destinée à préparer un envahissement de la planète avec leurs propres embouteillages, sous un look d'IB, vendus 30 euros d'ici 3 à 5 ans. Ainsi on déstoque et on barre le chemin des IB.
Mais en attendant, on fait monter les prix.
Si mon intuition est bonne, c'est bien calculé pour le long terme, messieurs. Pour le court terme, c'est invraisemblable qu'une quantité importante de gens se mettent à payer le whisky ce prix là. Il n'y a pas beaucoup de clents pour les montres à £10.000, et celles ci présentent des signes distinctifs de qualité (usages métaux et pierres précieux, mouvement complexes, ciselures d'orfèvrerie) que n'ont pas les whiskies de quelques années d'âge, fussent ils bons. Et en imaginant que les indépendants les suivent dans leur course au prix (et pourquuoi pas ?), les pigeons auront bientôt le choix entre 50 gammes de ce prix là, et ce sera un gros flop pour tout le monde. Et là, je rejoins Lexus.